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the common man that our society would

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worldly frustration

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Harwood and surrender now dear listeners

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from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carl wood

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and today we're gonna dive deeper into

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this weird reality and see if we can't

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make some sense out of it because we

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know our current cog in the wheel

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lifestyle is not what we were designed

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for but from the ground up we're taught

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to see the world in a very limiting way

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conditioned to worry injected with

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stress and sent off to make that green

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paper before we keel over into an early

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grave the scientists say spirituality is

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silly the medical system treats the body

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as a car mechanic treats an old Volvo

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and we lack the proper guidance to see

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reality as it really is

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meanwhile if you get off a main street

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you'll find many people who have

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unlocked mental abilities self-healing

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techniques and adopted a much more

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fulfilling way to live that just

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shouldn't be possible in the model were

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given well folks today's guest is just

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such a person his name is dr. Jacob

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Lieberman an optometrist and vision

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therapist who is a true pioneer in the

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fields of light sight and consciousness

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originally trained with conventional

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methods his life changed in 1976 after a

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miraculous healing of his own eyesight

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which sends him on a path of discovery

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and led him to uncover a deeper

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understanding of light and the science

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of life itself over the course of four

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decades treating others and cultivating

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this alternative knowledge he's authored

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several books on the subject with titles

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like light medicine of the future take

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off your glasses and see and most

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recently luminous life how the science

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of light unlocks the art of living

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he's also an award-winning inventor in

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the field of photo therapy having

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created useful tools like vis flex the

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color receptivity trainer and the eye

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port vision training system the first

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FDA cleared medical device that

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significantly improves overall visual

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performance I know I'm psyched to get

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into it a man who's been

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his craft longer than I've been alive

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the vision doctor the eye guy and the

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sensei of truesight dr. Lieberman my man

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welcome to the higher side oh it's great

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to be with you I love that introduction

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you're you're definitely a poet at heart

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I love it oh thank you thank you two

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kinds and I really appreciate you being

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here I think this is gonna be a lot of

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fun you've got a really impressive

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resume and that's what people need to

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hear to sit up and take notice because

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current of conditioning as you know yes

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I really loved your book luminous Life

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we need to rethink our views on light to

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understand the larger reality model that

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you write about in it and to kick this

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off let's use a quote you say light is

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more than just waves and particles

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it's a purveyor of consciousness light

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is not just out there something we need

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to find in order to see light seeks us

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out and guides us the way it seeks out

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and directs a plant to grow towards it

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well man when I read that I knew I was

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going to be going on a ride maybe you

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can speak to some of the misconceptions

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about light and how you think about it

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so that people can get on the same page

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so let me begin you said how you think

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relationship with truth hmm

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fair point everything we think is

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conceptual it's theoretical it's an idea

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it's a point of view but if you put that

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word belief for instance into a

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thesaurus you'll see it means the same

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theory concept and so on but when you

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look at the antonyms of the word belief

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really just hits you right in the face

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is truth that truth is actually the

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opposite of belief and so it's not so

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much about thinking things differently

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it's about actually identifying what

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that aspect is of our humanity that sees

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from no point of view

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and can actually have an experience of

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life that is direct not through the

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filter of what I believe what I don't

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believe what's proven what's not proven

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but has a direct experience you know

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people spend so much of their lives

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trying to convince each other of what

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when you've had an awakening experience

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such as like what I had in 1976 there's

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nothing to defend about that because you

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absolutely know that there is a knowing

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absolute knowing about it it's a fact in

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your life and so that for me is what

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moves me and what has moved me for a

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long time so having laid that foundation

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what am I talking about light looking

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everyone knows that a plant can't live

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without light and that a plant grows

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the plant is light dependent when the

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a plant Orient's itself to be in the

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optimal position to receive the exact

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that it requires to essentially run all

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what I am attempting to share in the

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book which is scientific fact is that

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human beings respond to light and so do

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every cell of our body has photo sensors

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designed to detect and respond to light

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because everyone thinks oh I know what

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light is I wake up in the morning I look

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out my window there's light actually not

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what we think is light is a perceptual

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called brightness or that we call color

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light itself is formless it is totally

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invisible you cannot magnify enough of

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whatever light is to actually see it

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behavior of light you find something

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really really fascinating it acts as if

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it is everywhere at the same time it

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in other words it acts in the same way

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as the biblical description of what we

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call God when we say oh this creative

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force in the universe that religious

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omnipotent omniscient and omnipresent

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the same time and then the Bible goes on

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to say God is light I don't know why

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they say that but when you look at light

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and you speak to a physicist that has

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studied light they will all tell you

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that what we call light is actually the

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foundational energy from where

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everything arises and this is why the

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renowned theoretical quantum physicist

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David Bohm while he was alive made a

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profound statement he said all matter is

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frozen light in other words

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everything that is solid is actually

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created from an energy called light and

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that includes our bodies and so what we

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know about the human body is that it is

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continually receiving information if you

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will in the form of light that tells it

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what to do when to do it and to what

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everyone knows that when the light rises

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everyone wakes up creatures animals

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of the day people start feeling sleepy

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and fall asleep what the average person

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doesn't realize is that your blood

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pressure your insulin production and

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secretion the production and secretion

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of all of your hormones all of the

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energy that your body has comes from

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is changing our body is continually

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adjusting itself to remain in harmony

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with Mother Nature so that we are always

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at one with Mother Nature when you're

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example of that would be jet lag you

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York or to London you get on a plane

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you're there in New York five hours

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later and then you start feeling out of

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sorts sometimes you might even feel like

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you're coming down with something you

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begin to wake up in the middle of the

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night when you would be sleeping you

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start getting sleepy mid-afternoon when

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you normally would be awake you find

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yourself wanting to eat at times you

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normally wouldn't or needing to use the

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restroom at times you never would the

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reason that occurs not only to humans

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and animals but also to plants if you

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every physiological function is light

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dependent and so even though we have

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this idea we all share that we are

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thoughts and our ideas and what we want

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to do and what we don't want to do if

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you really look deeply into the

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functioning of the body with the most

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sophisticated technology science has to

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offer you consistently will notice that

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the body is moving in the direction that

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you become aware of later and think was

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your own directive so people spend all

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day well I make this choice I make that

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choice if you look at the brain with the

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most sophisticated MRIs that are

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currently available you see that seven

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to ten seconds before a person believes

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that they've made a decision the body

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has already decided in its intelligence

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and is moving in that direction so light

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is something incredibly profound

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it is that which is continually evolving

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us toward a state of oneness with all

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that is in mother nature and when we are

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in that state of oneness that's usually

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when we experience optimal health and

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wellness and probably one of the main

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reasons you know if you look at what we

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call disease sciences will tell you that

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90 to 92 percent of what we call disease

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is directly caused by or significantly

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attributable to what we call stress

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mm-hmm seven or eight percent is what we

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call chronic illness chronic illness is

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usually the result of living in a way

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that is normal but not natural so when

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we look at the fact that a huge amount

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of what we call disease is caused or

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very significantly related to stress we

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have to take a look at what what is

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stress most of us think we know stress

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is but when I look at what we call

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stress to me stress is when a human

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being let's say we're talking about a

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person has an allergic reaction to some

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aspect of their life whether it be a

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reaction to food or to the environment

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or a reaction to another human being

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to a former husband or wife

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to someone that for whatever reason gets

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under our skin and when I say an

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allergic reaction we have physiological

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and psycho a motional reactivity to this

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and so for me stress is when we have

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such an allergic reaction and so the way

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that I look at health and wellness is

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very simple

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what is the person continually reacting

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to that is catalyzing dis-ease

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a lack of ease which is what we call the

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beginnings of disease stress and so on

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and what can we do

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to help them come to a place where they

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are able to embrace or at least have a

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neutral response to that which they used

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to recoil from so for instance if we all

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became comfortable with what used to

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feel uncomfortable our whole life would

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be different

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and so all of my work over the last 45

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years has been related to that and

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because we and the functioning of our

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bodies are inseparable from the light

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spectrum what I do with people is I take

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them through a very simple visualization

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because most of my clients I never see I

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work with via Skype and so on and I do a

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color analysis which is essentially I

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see how they respond to what they

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perceive as the different colors of the

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spectrum and what I routinely find is

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that people seem to be very comfortable

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when they think or envision or look at

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certain colors

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and they're not as comfortable when they

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look at others

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what's interesting is that on a cellular

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level when a cell is in optimal state of

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health it responds to all colors in

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other words all of the different

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segments of the light spectrum in the

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same way but when a cell is out of

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balance it responds selectively it

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basically says I like this one but I

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don't like this one well I noticed the

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same phenomenon almost 40-plus years ago

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and so what I do is I have developed a

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way of using color to very gently help

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someone to desensitize themselves from

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perhaps unresolved emotional

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triggers that we don't know where they

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originated from some may come from early

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childhood experiences but I think most

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of them are in the matrix of our DNA and

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have been passed on generationally for

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millions of generations

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and so I utilize color which slips

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beneath conscious awareness as a way of

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allowing them to notice wow isn't that

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interesting I'm so comfortable with

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green and blue but I'm so uncomfortable

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with red and orange what's fascinating

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then is that I notice a very significant

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relationship between the colors someone

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is uncomfortable with and the areas of

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their body where they develop problems

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or where they hold stress or where they

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have some sort of physiological

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malfunction

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people over the years have heard of the

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chakra system which is the fact that the

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body has different energy centers this

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is an old idea that people came to

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thousands of years ago when I was first

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introduced to this

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I didn't know what to make of it because

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I couldn't find any science to back it

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up but I noticed that the chakras

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all had different colors attributed to

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it I didn't understand why but when I

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began doing this color analysis many

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many years ago I discovered that the

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colors that people were seemingly

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uncomfortable with related to the areas

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of the body the chakras of the body

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associated with those colors and so I've

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developed a very simple approach that

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helps a person to understand something

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about their makeup not in terms of

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disease or fixing but in terms of what

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parts of life are they open and

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receptive to and what parts of life

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create tension for them and then the

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whole process is to expand their

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receptivity to all of the energies that

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make up the experience we call life so

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that we are less reactive and more at

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ease with our environment with our

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experiences with other people and so on

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mmm

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that's a long answer to your short

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question but I think it deserves sort of

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a global view so your listeners will

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have some sense of what I'm speaking

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about as a whole rather than just

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piecemeal absolutely I couldn't agree

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more and it is just so fascinating you

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touched on a lot of things that are

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probably pretty paradigm busting for

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people especially this understanding

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that disease for the most part isn't

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just random selection it's not Russian

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roulette with the universe it's actually

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based on our behaviors and us not

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getting what we might need from the

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natural environment and you framed up

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light in a really interesting way I mean

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it's probably way different from the way

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people are used to hearing about it and

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let me ask you a little more about the

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Sun conventionally of course we're told

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the Sun is going to give us cancer if we

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don't load up our skin with chemicals

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but clearly that can't be accurate how

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should we best interact with the Sun or

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or what is a better way to think about

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our interaction with

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well again let's take it out of the idea

444
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of thinking about it most people in

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today's world work indoors or work in

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buildings prior to 1900 over 90% of the

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population worked outdoors everyone got

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their minimal daily requirement of

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sunlight which is the most powerful

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nutritional aspect of mother nature

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most of us over 90% work indoors we're

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light deprived and this is why every

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major disease today is significantly

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related to a vitamin D deficiency

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00:23:03,080 --> 00:22:59,309
because vitamin D is something we derive

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from interaction directly with sunlight

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so let's talk about what you said the

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healthiest people

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are the people that spend a great deal

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of time outdoors most of the significant

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skin cancers like melanoma occur in

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places that usually never get sunshine

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and it's more prevalent in people

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working indoors under fluorescent

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lighting than it is with people that are

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spending time outdoors the other thing

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is that even though melanoma has some

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relationship with burning your skin

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early in life so it is somewhat related

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to sunlight

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the people that spend a lot of time

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outdoors are eight times is less likely

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even if they get melanoma to die from it

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then people that spend their life

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indoors because

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you know when you step outside your

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house or if you stood outside of an

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office building

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and you recorded the sounds that came

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from people the moment they stepped

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outside you've noticed something they

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all do this ah and the reason is because

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living indoors with conditioned air

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totally unnatural light sounds that are

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continually repeating themselves

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computers and so on is so unnatural that

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it produces a dramatic amount of disease

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so in terms of your question a person

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should have at least 30 minutes a day of

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natural light

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now if you're someone that spends most

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of their time indoors like most people

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stand outside for one minute a day the

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first day

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increase it to two minutes the next day

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if you have a place where you can remove

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your clothing or at least clothing that

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covers large areas of the body like your

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chest or back or your entire legs if you

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can just lay out in the Sun for a minute

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the first day with your shirt off maybe

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your trousers off or shorts on

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maybe a minute on your chest a minute on

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your belly maybe the next day you

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increase it by a minute what will happen

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is your skin will adjust to that light

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and actually develop melanin in your

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skin that will protect you from burning

509
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yourself see if you can work that up to

510
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about 30 minutes a day so for instance I

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walk every day about three miles if it's

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warm and it usually is out in Maui where

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I live I walk without a shirt on and I

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walk with shorts on

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and so I'm getting that Sun through my

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eyes and into my skin and that is

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something that is more powerful than

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anything else a human being can do to

519
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:37,929
support their health and wellness

520
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:41,570
another aspect is not only are we told

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not to be out in the Sun and to totally

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cover our skin with all kinds of

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sunscreen but we're told to wear

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sunglasses all the time there's nothing

525
00:26:59,529 --> 00:26:55,429
wrong with sunglasses if you're driving

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00:27:01,899 --> 00:26:59,539
into the Sun if you're skiing if you're

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00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:01,909
out on the water or for it's an

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00:27:06,980 --> 00:27:04,710
exceptionally bright day

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00:27:11,180 --> 00:27:06,990
but most people who believe themselves

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00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:11,190
to be sensitive to light hypersensitive

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00:27:16,010 --> 00:27:13,890
have become that way because they're

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00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:16,020
constantly covering their eyes from the

533
00:27:23,210 --> 00:27:18,890
Sun with sunglasses its artificially

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00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:23,220
self-created it's very important to

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00:27:29,950 --> 00:27:26,570
allow natural light to enter your eyes

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00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:29,960
it's what your eyes are married to

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00:27:38,109 --> 00:27:32,910
ninety-eight percent of the light that

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00:27:41,219 --> 00:27:38,119
enters the body enters via the eyes

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00:27:44,979 --> 00:27:41,229
and every function of the body is

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00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:44,989
regulated by light so when you limit or

541
00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:48,799
change the spectrum of light that comes

542
00:27:54,969 --> 00:27:51,769
into the eyes you're creating tremendous

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00:27:58,959 --> 00:27:54,979
stress now we hear something today about

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00:28:02,760 --> 00:27:58,969
the fact that computer screens give off

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00:28:06,299 --> 00:28:02,770
an excessive amount of blue light

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00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:06,309
blue light in the solar spectrum from

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00:28:11,940 --> 00:28:09,010
the Sun is not problematic

548
00:28:15,210 --> 00:28:11,950
cuz it's in total balance with the

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00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:15,220
amount of red light that comes from the

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00:28:22,860 --> 00:28:18,809
solar spectrum so it works beautifully

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00:28:26,370 --> 00:28:22,870
but our technology our computers our

552
00:28:28,919 --> 00:28:26,380
cell phones and so on which are using

553
00:28:31,950 --> 00:28:28,929
light sources that primarily are in the

554
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:31,960
blue end of the spectrum what that does

555
00:28:39,810 --> 00:28:35,890
is it feeds our eyes more blue than is

556
00:28:42,570 --> 00:28:39,820
actually healthy so if you have an

557
00:28:46,290 --> 00:28:42,580
iPhone they have a program that can

558
00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:46,300
change the spectrum automatically of the

559
00:28:51,090 --> 00:28:48,070
light so you're not getting too much

560
00:28:55,370 --> 00:28:51,100
blue light at night you can get those

561
00:28:58,340 --> 00:28:55,380
same applications for computers

562
00:29:02,150 --> 00:28:58,350
they have very simple glasses that have

563
00:29:05,150 --> 00:29:02,160
a slight yellow or amber slight orange

564
00:29:08,570 --> 00:29:05,160
tint some of them have no tint at all

565
00:29:12,169 --> 00:29:08,580
but are able to block the blue light you

566
00:29:14,690 --> 00:29:12,179
can use those especially in the evening

567
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:14,700
or if you're spending an inordinate

568
00:29:21,890 --> 00:29:18,809
amount of time in front of a computer my

569
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:21,900
computer for instance my desk backs up

570
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:26,730
to a large window a 4x8 foot window so

571
00:29:32,270 --> 00:29:29,010
I'm continually getting natural light

572
00:29:34,970 --> 00:29:32,280
and looking outdoors so my eyes have a

573
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:34,980
break because when your eyes are

574
00:29:38,779 --> 00:29:37,200
continually looking at something up

575
00:29:41,569 --> 00:29:38,789
close

576
00:29:44,239 --> 00:29:41,579
what ends up happening is usually become

577
00:29:47,239 --> 00:29:44,249
nearsighted because they adjust

578
00:29:49,879 --> 00:29:47,249
themselves to that distance but if you

579
00:29:53,689 --> 00:29:49,889
can work on the computer and then look

580
00:29:56,930 --> 00:29:53,699
outside at infinity and continually

581
00:30:00,049 --> 00:29:56,940
allow that to just look off to the

582
00:30:02,149 --> 00:30:00,059
distance throughout the day you can

583
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:02,159
probably preserve your eyesight and

584
00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:04,799
still work at the computer so a few

585
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:07,679
helpful hints all of which I mentioned

586
00:30:15,019 --> 00:30:11,279
in my newest book and all of which take

587
00:30:19,369 --> 00:30:15,029
really no time no energy and don't

588
00:30:22,249 --> 00:30:19,379
require any cost right yeah the book is

589
00:30:25,639 --> 00:30:22,259
just chock full of great advice and

590
00:30:27,859 --> 00:30:25,649
techniques for bettering your sight or

591
00:30:29,959 --> 00:30:27,869
keeping it healthy and of course after

592
00:30:31,789 --> 00:30:29,969
40 years I'm sure it's a bit tiring to

593
00:30:33,889 --> 00:30:31,799
keep going over your own experience with

594
00:30:36,829 --> 00:30:33,899
sight healing but obviously this is

595
00:30:38,659 --> 00:30:36,839
still quite new to some people I try to

596
00:30:41,809 --> 00:30:38,669
give the cliff notes in the intro but

597
00:30:45,049 --> 00:30:41,819
maybe you could elaborate on your own

598
00:30:46,939 --> 00:30:45,059
story or at least the decades of helping

599
00:30:49,849 --> 00:30:46,949
thousands of people to see better

600
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:49,859
because I guess the trick to it or the

601
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:52,529
underlying knowledge is that it's not so

602
00:30:56,509 --> 00:30:54,569
much about the ocular nerve as much as

603
00:31:00,199 --> 00:30:56,519
it is an alignment with the mind's eye

604
00:31:03,529 --> 00:31:00,209
and the ocular nerve is that right well

605
00:31:09,819 --> 00:31:03,539
let's talk about that first of all I'll

606
00:31:14,239 --> 00:31:09,829
share with you that between 1967 and

607
00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:14,249
1976 I wore glasses I was nearsighted

608
00:31:20,499 --> 00:31:17,369
and I had a significant amount of

609
00:31:23,329 --> 00:31:20,509
astigmatism which many people have

610
00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:23,339
essentially what that meant is that if I

611
00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:26,129
looked off into the distance things were

612
00:31:32,689 --> 00:31:28,769
blurry so I couldn't see the blackboard

613
00:31:36,469 --> 00:31:32,699
if I was in a class I couldn't see well

614
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:36,479
to drive when I was in my early years of

615
00:31:41,239 --> 00:31:38,849
practice and I don't practice any longer

616
00:31:44,059 --> 00:31:41,249
in the fields of optometry you know I

617
00:31:46,669 --> 00:31:44,069
couldn't see the letters in the distance

618
00:31:49,639 --> 00:31:46,679
to know whether my patients were giving

619
00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:49,649
me the right answers or not so I had

620
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:51,220
worn glasses

621
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:55,690
up until 1976 and then I had a very

622
00:32:02,130 --> 00:31:58,210
profound experience while I was

623
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:02,140
meditating today if I tried to describe

624
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:03,730
that experience people would say oh

625
00:32:10,860 --> 00:32:07,210
that's an out-of-body experience my eyes

626
00:32:13,790 --> 00:32:10,870
were closed my glasses obviously were

627
00:32:16,620 --> 00:32:13,800
off and I was just doing my daily

628
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:16,630
meditation practice which I had been

629
00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:20,210
doing since 1971

630
00:32:28,139 --> 00:32:23,230
but something unusual occurred

631
00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:28,149
all of a sudden there was a sense that I

632
00:32:33,630 --> 00:32:31,470
was observing myself sitting in the room

633
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:33,640
meditating

634
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:37,210
there was a feeling as if I was fully

635
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:40,809
aware of everything in the room at the

636
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:44,049
same time I don't know how to describe

637
00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:48,570
it to you but it was almost like

638
00:32:56,030 --> 00:32:52,150
I was fully aware of everything

639
00:32:59,940 --> 00:32:56,040
and everything was clear not just

640
00:33:01,940 --> 00:32:59,950
optically clear but clear in every way

641
00:33:05,570 --> 00:33:01,950
in that

642
00:33:08,390 --> 00:33:05,580
the mine was totally quiet there were no

643
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:08,400
questions about anything everything was

644
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:10,550
clear

645
00:33:16,060 --> 00:33:13,250
again I can't tell you what precipitated

646
00:33:19,630 --> 00:33:16,070
this state there wasn't anything I was

647
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:19,640
doing all I can share with you is 20

648
00:33:28,780 --> 00:33:24,110
minutes later when I came out of my

649
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:28,790
meditation to my surprise I was able to

650
00:33:34,930 --> 00:33:31,850
see everything with a level of clarity

651
00:33:38,830 --> 00:33:34,940
that I quite frankly did not remember

652
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:38,840
for a very very very long period of time

653
00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:42,290
I didn't know what to do it was a Sunday

654
00:33:50,170 --> 00:33:46,910
I got in my car my license said I needed

655
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:50,180
to wear my glasses to drive but I could

656
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:52,490
see so perfectly that I put my glasses

657
00:33:58,499 --> 00:33:55,130
on the seat next to me

658
00:34:00,669 --> 00:33:58,509
I drove a half-an-hour to my office

659
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:00,679
noticing that I could see all the

660
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:04,250
license plates the street signs and the

661
00:34:10,490 --> 00:34:07,110
billboards with no problem

662
00:34:15,349 --> 00:34:10,500
I got to my office I sat in my

663
00:34:18,260 --> 00:34:15,359
examination chair 20 feet away from my

664
00:34:18,829 --> 00:34:18,270
eye chart which is very different than

665
00:34:21,879 --> 00:34:18,839
today

666
00:34:25,220 --> 00:34:21,889
hardly any eye doctors that you go to

667
00:34:26,919 --> 00:34:25,230
will actually allow you to read a twenty

668
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:26,929
feet away which is called optical

669
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:31,649
infinity because rental spaces expensive

670
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:34,730
they have you look into a mirror at a

671
00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:38,210
reflection that's behind you and so

672
00:34:45,770 --> 00:34:41,250
you're not actually seeing in the same

673
00:34:49,129 --> 00:34:45,780
way as you would see outdoors but in 73

674
00:34:51,169 --> 00:34:49,139
and 76 my office was set up where

675
00:34:54,349 --> 00:34:51,179
everything was 20 feet away at optical

676
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:54,359
infinity well when I started projecting

677
00:35:01,750 --> 00:34:57,450
a variety of different eye charts I was

678
00:35:05,150 --> 00:35:01,760
consistently seeing 300 percent better

679
00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:05,160
then I a naturally normally saw without

680
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:07,260
my glasses on

681
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:09,690
and I thought this was rather astounding

682
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:11,970
and I couldn't understand what was going

683
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:16,910
on so I decided to examine my own eyes

684
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:19,650
something that's not easy to do because

685
00:35:26,570 --> 00:35:23,280
I have an instrument in front of my face

686
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:26,580
and I'm playing with the knobs on the

687
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:28,410
instrument but I can't see what I'm

688
00:35:35,210 --> 00:35:31,290
doing so you could say it was like a

689
00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:35,220
double-blind experiment I was just doing

690
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:39,720
on myself and so I examine my eyes and

691
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:43,730
when I came to the prescription that

692
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:47,490
looked optimal to me that felt optimal I

693
00:35:54,410 --> 00:35:50,210
came out from behind my instrument

694
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:54,420
thinking that my prescription might be

695
00:36:01,330 --> 00:35:57,290
weaker or maybe the instrument would

696
00:36:05,330 --> 00:36:01,340
essentially show no prescription at all

697
00:36:09,050 --> 00:36:05,340
because I was trained to believe that as

698
00:36:13,250 --> 00:36:09,060
your eyes worsen your ability to see

699
00:36:17,110 --> 00:36:13,260
your visual acuity also diminishes so if

700
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:17,120
my visual acuity improved dramatically

701
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:20,880
logic would say to me maybe my

702
00:36:26,180 --> 00:36:23,370
prescription has changed now I was told

703
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:26,190
that was impossible in my training but

704
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:28,400
that was the only thing I could imagine

705
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:32,640
when I came out behind my device and

706
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:36,730
looked at the readings on the instrument

707
00:36:44,359 --> 00:36:41,049
I was totally blown away because here I

708
00:36:46,579 --> 00:36:44,369
was seeing 300% better

709
00:36:49,969 --> 00:36:46,589
but the prescription the optical

710
00:36:54,410 --> 00:36:49,979
measurements of my eyes had not changed

711
00:36:59,099 --> 00:36:54,420
at all hmm and then all of a sudden it

712
00:37:01,680 --> 00:36:59,109
was like the only way this could occur

713
00:37:05,029 --> 00:37:01,690
is if we are not seeing from the eyes

714
00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:05,039
alone that there are other mechanisms

715
00:37:12,839 --> 00:37:08,160
involved in the process of seeing and

716
00:37:15,989 --> 00:37:12,849
that led me to an experiment on myself

717
00:37:18,779 --> 00:37:15,999
the next four or five years which I

718
00:37:21,450 --> 00:37:18,789
called an experiment on the workings of

719
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:21,460
the mind

720
00:37:27,930 --> 00:37:24,450
and what I was trying to figure out is

721
00:37:30,810 --> 00:37:27,940
what is the relationship between what we

722
00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:30,820
call the mind's eye our point of view

723
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:35,230
our ideas our beliefs and so on to our

724
00:37:41,460 --> 00:37:38,320
eyes and is there a way that I can

725
00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:41,470
access a state of mind

726
00:37:48,660 --> 00:37:45,369
shift something that can allow me to

727
00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:48,670
replicate this profound experience

728
00:37:56,329 --> 00:37:52,380
well I couldn't find such a place even

729
00:37:59,599 --> 00:37:56,339
with all of my searching

730
00:38:05,539 --> 00:37:59,609
I should tell you that it's been 42

731
00:38:08,749 --> 00:38:05,549
years since that day in 1976 I'm over 71

732
00:38:12,410 --> 00:38:08,759
years old right now and I have never

733
00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:12,420
worn a pair of glasses to see a distance

734
00:38:19,309 --> 00:38:17,339
or for reading since that day and none

735
00:38:23,630 --> 00:38:19,319
of my eye doctors and I see my eye

736
00:38:26,690 --> 00:38:23,640
doctors every year can understand how it

737
00:38:29,269 --> 00:38:26,700
is that I have a significant

738
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:29,279
prescription but I still see clearly

739
00:38:34,370 --> 00:38:32,130
that's the first thing

740
00:38:37,310 --> 00:38:34,380
second thing I want to share with you is

741
00:38:40,690 --> 00:38:37,320
in response to your question what is it

742
00:38:43,130 --> 00:38:40,700
that I discovered that I sense is

743
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:43,140
related to what you're asking for

744
00:38:49,579 --> 00:38:45,450
in other words

745
00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:49,589
what is the source of our seeing when we

746
00:39:00,620 --> 00:38:56,510
talk about me or I Who am I

747
00:39:03,070 --> 00:39:00,630
because if we can determine our essence

748
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:03,080
our essential self

749
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:05,690
that is the part that's actually seeing

750
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:08,930
so here we've been led to believe we see

751
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:10,970
with our eyes

752
00:39:15,780 --> 00:39:14,690
if our eyes are closed or there is no

753
00:39:17,980 --> 00:39:15,790
light

754
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:17,990
obviously we shouldn't be able to see

755
00:39:22,490 --> 00:39:20,800
based on that

756
00:39:26,430 --> 00:39:22,500
but all of us go to sleep at night

757
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:26,440
there's no light outside we close our

758
00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:30,330
eyes and very frequently almost nightly

759
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:34,630
we have dreams some are incredibly vivid

760
00:39:43,140 --> 00:39:38,880
they are filled with light and color and

761
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:43,150
yet there is no light and color they are

762
00:39:48,759 --> 00:39:45,839
filled with

763
00:39:51,709 --> 00:39:48,769
something that looks like life and

764
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:51,719
certain abilities that are beyond

765
00:39:57,229 --> 00:39:54,689
anything we can imagine in life like

766
00:39:59,900 --> 00:39:57,239
people have dreams of flying and so on

767
00:40:01,550 --> 00:39:59,910
or being in different locations very

768
00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:01,560
quickly

769
00:40:08,030 --> 00:40:05,640
so we know that the seeing mechanism is

770
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:08,040
a lot more than the eyes

771
00:40:14,180 --> 00:40:10,890
and then of course you would then come

772
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:14,190
to the common sensical idea that well

773
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:16,560
it's the mind then

774
00:40:22,430 --> 00:40:18,240
and of course that would make sense

775
00:40:25,610 --> 00:40:22,440
because you know the mind is aware and

776
00:40:27,860 --> 00:40:25,620
awake and so on to certain degrees when

777
00:40:31,820 --> 00:40:27,870
you're sleeping

778
00:40:35,540 --> 00:40:31,830
but if you look carefully every human

779
00:40:39,260 --> 00:40:35,550
being has a very profound experience so

780
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:39,270
for instance you like all of our

781
00:40:46,420 --> 00:40:43,170
listeners like every human being has

782
00:40:51,170 --> 00:40:46,430
this phenomenon that we call thinking or

783
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:51,180
thoughts which essentially means that we

784
00:41:01,130 --> 00:40:56,400
are aware of some mind chatter would you

785
00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:01,140
agree I would definitely okay so when

786
00:41:09,390 --> 00:41:04,980
you are aware that there's chatter going

787
00:41:14,670 --> 00:41:09,400
on who is it that is aware of that

788
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:14,680
hmm only myself really right well who is

789
00:41:22,740 --> 00:41:19,450
yourself because you say myself so

790
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:22,750
you're saying that myself is aware of

791
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:29,200
this thing that we call my mind because

792
00:41:35,849 --> 00:41:32,290
the chatter is coming from what we call

793
00:41:38,190 --> 00:41:35,859
the ego or the conscious mind

794
00:41:43,010 --> 00:41:38,200
and we've been led to believe that's us

795
00:41:46,609 --> 00:41:43,020
and that we are doing the thinking

796
00:41:50,030 --> 00:41:46,619
but most of the time what we call the

797
00:41:53,150 --> 00:41:50,040
thought arises by itself we don't know

798
00:41:56,210 --> 00:41:53,160
from where it comes and then we become

799
00:41:59,960 --> 00:41:56,220
aware of it but we're so used to saying

800
00:42:02,530 --> 00:41:59,970
it's my mind that we believe that we're

801
00:42:05,780 --> 00:42:02,540
either thinking it or not thinking it

802
00:42:09,250 --> 00:42:05,790
what I came to discover many years ago

803
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:09,260
is that we are not the thinker of the

804
00:42:19,650 --> 00:42:15,290
thoughts we are that which is aware of

805
00:42:24,210 --> 00:42:19,660
the thinking when it is occurring

806
00:42:27,810 --> 00:42:24,220
the difference between the mind

807
00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:27,820
and this something that is aware of the

808
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:32,230
mind thinking is that you always know

809
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:34,720
when the thinking is going on because

810
00:42:43,380 --> 00:42:39,130
you're aware of talking of a voice the

811
00:42:46,830 --> 00:42:43,390
observer or this field of awareness that

812
00:42:50,940 --> 00:42:46,840
notices it never talks

813
00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:50,950
it has no point of view you see the mind

814
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:53,440
sees things is good or bad and right and

815
00:43:01,730 --> 00:42:56,490
wrong I like it I don't like it

816
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:01,740
it resides in what we call duality this

817
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:04,770
field of awareness let's call it an

818
00:43:12,740 --> 00:43:09,690
observer has no point of view

819
00:43:16,220 --> 00:43:12,750
doesn't speak so if you hear a voice it

820
00:43:19,460 --> 00:43:16,230
is not your essence it is not yourself

821
00:43:21,260 --> 00:43:19,470
that you were speaking about it is the

822
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:21,270
mind

823
00:43:30,350 --> 00:43:25,050
what is noticing that is our essence and

824
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:30,360
because that place sees from no point of

825
00:43:36,610 --> 00:43:32,110
view

826
00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:36,620
it sees with absolute clarity

827
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:39,660
it is our point of view

828
00:43:46,490 --> 00:43:43,200
that causes us to see more of one thing

829
00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:46,500
unless of another it reduces our ability

830
00:43:52,450 --> 00:43:50,910
to see clearly when there is no point of

831
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:52,460
view

832
00:44:02,350 --> 00:43:55,010
everything is perfect just the way that

833
00:44:05,650 --> 00:44:02,360
it is so in terms of my sense of how my

834
00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:05,660
vision shifted it wasn't because I

835
00:44:14,410 --> 00:44:09,920
exercised my eyes or because I did any

836
00:44:17,410 --> 00:44:14,420
sort of mind games it is because I

837
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:17,420
discovered who I was

838
00:44:24,820 --> 00:44:21,200
hmm I discovered that I wasn't all that

839
00:44:27,940 --> 00:44:24,830
chatter you know in this psychology

840
00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:27,950
field there are famous experiments that

841
00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:32,270
were done on dogs where every time they

842
00:44:38,350 --> 00:44:34,780
gave the dog food they would ring a bell

843
00:44:41,290 --> 00:44:38,360
so the dogs were conditioned to

844
00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:41,300
associate the ringing of a bell with the

845
00:44:47,050 --> 00:44:44,720
food coming mm-hmm after doing that for

846
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:47,060
a while and these were called Pavlov's

847
00:44:55,140 --> 00:44:50,090
dogs because Pavlov was the person that

848
00:44:58,270 --> 00:44:55,150
did the experiment after a while Pavlov

849
00:45:02,350 --> 00:44:58,280
stopped ringing food but just rung the

850
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:02,360
bell every time he rung the bell all the

851
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:03,730
dogs salivated

852
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:06,970
mm-hmm in other words they were

853
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:12,890
conditioned to react a certain way even

854
00:45:20,110 --> 00:45:15,170
though there was no food

855
00:45:21,850 --> 00:45:20,120
every human being is conditioned the

856
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:21,860
term they used to use for that years ago

857
00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:26,000
was brainwashing so let's talk about one

858
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:30,710
simple example of conditioning when an

859
00:45:37,780 --> 00:45:34,130
infant comes into the world an infant

860
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:37,790
does not know it is an infant

861
00:45:45,820 --> 00:45:41,210
it has no sense of gender

862
00:45:48,610 --> 00:45:45,830
it has no sense of skin coloration

863
00:45:51,140 --> 00:45:48,620
it has no awareness of religious

864
00:45:54,530 --> 00:45:51,150
differences

865
00:45:58,270 --> 00:45:54,540
it doesn't come in liking chicken and

866
00:46:01,720 --> 00:45:58,280
disliking broccoli

867
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:01,730
it has no preferences

868
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:06,560
this is why it was said that an infant

869
00:46:14,740 --> 00:46:11,040
lives in oceanic bliss

870
00:46:17,620 --> 00:46:14,750
because the infant is in a state of

871
00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:17,630
uncondition ality

872
00:46:25,570 --> 00:46:20,510
the infant doesn't even know that it

873
00:46:29,980 --> 00:46:25,580
exists separate from the other person

874
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:29,990
that we call its mother it has no sense

875
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:33,290
of self as something separate from

876
00:46:38,620 --> 00:46:34,370
anything else

877
00:46:42,430 --> 00:46:38,630
it lives in unity now you know all

878
00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:42,440
infants when they have to urinate for

879
00:46:47,780 --> 00:46:46,310
instance they just urinate into their

880
00:46:49,940 --> 00:46:47,790
diaper

881
00:46:53,060 --> 00:46:49,950
or they defecate if that's what's

882
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:53,070
required but when an infant gets to a

883
00:47:00,270 --> 00:46:56,330
certain stage that time when we say oh

884
00:47:03,630 --> 00:47:00,280
they should be toilet trained

885
00:47:07,140 --> 00:47:03,640
when the child naturally urinates for

886
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:07,150
instance or defecates the mother or

887
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:09,370
father oh no you can't do that you have

888
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:13,010
to hold it until we get to the bathroom

889
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:18,290
so then what happens is normal meets up

890
00:47:24,700 --> 00:47:21,770
with natural the infant is responding in

891
00:47:28,290 --> 00:47:24,710
a way that's natural but the world is

892
00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:28,300
saying what's natural is not normal

893
00:47:33,780 --> 00:47:31,960
what's normal is that you hold your

894
00:47:35,710 --> 00:47:33,790
bowel movement

895
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:35,720
and so

896
00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:39,440
the infant all of a sudden receives the

897
00:47:46,270 --> 00:47:42,470
message that they need to monitor

898
00:47:49,420 --> 00:47:46,280
themselves continually to say the right

899
00:47:51,700 --> 00:47:49,430
thing to do the right thing so that they

900
00:47:55,140 --> 00:47:51,710
are acceptable

901
00:48:00,010 --> 00:47:55,150
that monitoring system that is

902
00:48:04,059 --> 00:48:00,020
continually determining what the person

903
00:48:07,839 --> 00:48:04,069
should do to ensure safety security and

904
00:48:10,420 --> 00:48:07,849
predictability on a planet where safety

905
00:48:15,340 --> 00:48:10,430
security and predictability do not exist

906
00:48:18,620 --> 00:48:15,350
that monitor is what you call the mind

907
00:48:21,499 --> 00:48:18,630
that's what you call thinking

908
00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:21,509
but thinking isn't really thinking it's

909
00:48:26,059 --> 00:48:23,369
worrying

910
00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:26,069
it's what we go through most of the time

911
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:30,390
in hopes that we can guarantee that we

912
00:48:34,460 --> 00:48:32,490
will come through the situation okay

913
00:48:37,970 --> 00:48:34,470
that we will get the job

914
00:48:43,099 --> 00:48:37,980
get the raise past the test be liked by

915
00:48:46,350 --> 00:48:43,109
the girl or boy and so on so one of the

916
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:46,360
biggest issues that humanity has

917
00:48:53,370 --> 00:48:49,440
is we've all been conditioned to

918
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:53,380
experience life through our ideas of

919
00:49:00,090 --> 00:48:56,290
what we were told was acceptable or not

920
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:00,100
acceptable rather than to see life

921
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:05,170
directly and they awakening that people

922
00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:08,890
speak about the enlightening is when one

923
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:12,880
realizes that they are not the mind mhm

924
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:15,910
and then you don't have to do anything

925
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:18,490
to change your belief or to quiet the

926
00:49:26,670 --> 00:49:22,810
mind once you begin to identify with

927
00:49:29,580 --> 00:49:26,680
your essence then what occurs is over a

928
00:49:32,820 --> 00:49:29,590
while the mind begins to quiet by itself

929
00:49:36,780 --> 00:49:32,830
and it sits off in the background most

930
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:36,790
of the time each of us have things that

931
00:49:41,220 --> 00:49:38,170
really trouble us

932
00:49:43,380 --> 00:49:41,230
so we'll experience the mind and

933
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:43,390
interacting with it many times in our

934
00:49:49,710 --> 00:49:46,570
life but most of the time it'll be in

935
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:49,720
the background I mean this is also

936
00:49:54,210 --> 00:49:52,090
interesting in I learned from your book

937
00:49:57,210 --> 00:49:54,220
there is some real science that shows

938
00:50:00,300 --> 00:49:57,220
that we sense photons before they

939
00:50:02,190 --> 00:50:00,310
actually take shape and form and we have

940
00:50:04,050 --> 00:50:02,200
a lot of processing in this regard

941
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:04,060
that's going on before our conscious

942
00:50:08,610 --> 00:50:06,250
mind even realizes it this is writing

943
00:50:10,650 --> 00:50:08,620
the Nexus of what you're talking about

944
00:50:13,170 --> 00:50:10,660
but it's interesting that there is so

945
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:13,180
much science behind it and it has huge

946
00:50:19,609 --> 00:50:16,210
implications for flow States as opposed

947
00:50:24,769 --> 00:50:19,619
to ego thinking right

948
00:50:28,569 --> 00:50:24,779
yeah a lot of the philosophy you hear

949
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:28,579
today is about trying to make the

950
00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:32,609
unconscious conscious but there's a

951
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:36,569
reason why almost everything that comes

952
00:50:41,140 --> 00:50:38,720
from us

953
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:41,150
occurs at a level that were totally

954
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:43,610
unconscious of

955
00:50:51,310 --> 00:50:47,510
and that is because we do not control

956
00:50:53,170 --> 00:50:51,320
any aspect of our physiology you don't

957
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:53,180
control when you go to the bathroom or

958
00:50:58,510 --> 00:50:56,090
not you don't control when you wake up

959
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:58,520
or you don't you don't control your

960
00:51:04,620 --> 00:51:01,280
heartrate your breathing rate your

961
00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:04,630
secretions you don't control anything

962
00:51:11,210 --> 00:51:08,480
inside the body you also don't control

963
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:11,220
anything in Mother Nature

964
00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:14,730
and yet we say to each other while I

965
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:18,089
create my own reality by the choices I

966
00:51:23,980 --> 00:51:19,490
make

967
00:51:26,090 --> 00:51:23,990
so I say to people okay how do you know

968
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:26,100
that

969
00:51:39,460 --> 00:51:36,290
and

970
00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:39,470
if you don't know how you know that

971
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:42,800
but you heard it from some author or

972
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:46,130
someone else then I think it's important

973
00:51:53,730 --> 00:51:50,210
for each of us to begin to look at that

974
00:51:55,380 --> 00:51:53,740
is that true

975
00:51:57,900 --> 00:51:55,390
you know when we're trying to think

976
00:52:01,060 --> 00:51:57,910
about something we often say god it's on

977
00:52:07,420 --> 00:52:02,800
and it doesn't come off the tip of our

978
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:07,430
tongue until we stop thinking and yet

979
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:09,290
we've been led to believe that we have

980
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:12,610
to think in order to get the answers

981
00:52:18,860 --> 00:52:15,410
what I have discovered

982
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:18,870
is that what we call thinking

983
00:52:23,390 --> 00:52:21,330
actually obstructs us from getting the

984
00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:23,400
answer

985
00:52:32,890 --> 00:52:27,680
charge

986
00:52:38,059 --> 00:52:32,900
when the mind is still and quiet so I

987
00:52:42,589 --> 00:52:38,069
think it's really important that all of

988
00:52:45,230 --> 00:52:42,599
us begin to have a direct experience of

989
00:52:47,950 --> 00:52:45,240
life I always say to audiences when I'm

990
00:52:51,470 --> 00:52:47,960
speaking publicly

991
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:51,480
don't believe anything I say

992
00:52:55,490 --> 00:52:54,690
if it resonates with you as oh yes I

993
00:52:58,550 --> 00:52:55,500
know that

994
00:53:00,740 --> 00:52:58,560
well you're not believing me

995
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:00,750
you're just acknowledging your own

996
00:53:10,609 --> 00:53:07,240
but rather than believing the person or

997
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:10,619
disbelieving the person trust your own

998
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:13,770
guidance whatever is true for each

999
00:53:23,299 --> 00:53:19,250
person do an experiment in your own life

1000
00:53:26,599 --> 00:53:23,309
begin to see whether that's true is my

1001
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:26,609
thinking really creative because we were

1002
00:53:33,230 --> 00:53:29,250
all told that thinking is what made us

1003
00:53:36,410 --> 00:53:33,240
more evolved than animals and so on but

1004
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:36,420
science knows today that animals think

1005
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:40,559
and so do plants consciousness exists

1006
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:43,290
everywhere

1007
00:53:48,949 --> 00:53:46,319
to the smallest microbe

1008
00:53:53,290 --> 00:53:48,959
a plant knows the difference between a

1009
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:53,300
drop of water touching its leaves

1010
00:53:58,050 --> 00:53:55,610
and the pitter-patter of a small

1011
00:54:00,820 --> 00:53:58,060
creature that's about to feast on it and

1012
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:00,830
it develops stress hormones in response

1013
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:06,610
to it so all these ideas that we are

1014
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:09,890
highly evolved because we can think or

1015
00:54:15,730 --> 00:54:12,400
more evolved than other creatures I

1016
00:54:20,420 --> 00:54:15,740
think it's important for us to actually

1017
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:20,430
notice is my thinking creative

1018
00:54:27,530 --> 00:54:23,760
or does it just surface when I'm scared

1019
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:27,540
and I don't know what's coming up and I

1020
00:54:34,010 --> 00:54:30,450
start feverishly to try to orchestrate

1021
00:54:38,330 --> 00:54:34,020
things in my mind and rehearsing them

1022
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:38,340
internally in hopes I get it right hmm

1023
00:54:45,620 --> 00:54:42,210
yes and what I am sharing with the

1024
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:45,630
listener is the most exciting thing in

1025
00:54:53,870 --> 00:54:51,210
life is to live life without a net to

1026
00:54:56,930 --> 00:54:53,880
actually go into life empty-handed so

1027
00:54:58,910 --> 00:54:56,940
for instance I've been blessed to be

1028
00:55:03,270 --> 00:54:58,920
asked to speak in front of audiences

1029
00:55:06,220 --> 00:55:03,280
more than two thousand times as an adult

1030
00:55:08,650 --> 00:55:06,230
since 1977

1031
00:55:12,310 --> 00:55:08,660
I have not prepared anything for any

1032
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:12,320
talk I've done I have no notes I've

1033
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:15,890
never used the PowerPoint I do not give

1034
00:55:24,340 --> 00:55:20,720
it any thought whatsoever it all occurs

1035
00:55:26,830 --> 00:55:24,350
by itself just like this conversation

1036
00:55:30,010 --> 00:55:26,840
today and you and I have never spoken

1037
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:30,020
before last herb and now we're in the

1038
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:32,720
depths of something beautiful that seems

1039
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:35,210
to have a life of its own it's flowing

1040
00:55:39,660 --> 00:55:38,210
by itself and none of us have given it

1041
00:55:42,340 --> 00:55:39,670
much of a thought

1042
00:55:45,820 --> 00:55:42,350
wouldn't it be interesting if we could

1043
00:55:48,310 --> 00:55:45,830
live our lives that way it would it

1044
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:48,320
would and I like everything you're

1045
00:55:51,580 --> 00:55:49,970
saying I wanted to bring this up because

1046
00:55:54,310 --> 00:55:51,590
it kind of speaks to your point about

1047
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:54,320
control but to step back to that first

1048
00:55:59,500 --> 00:55:57,410
quote where you say light guides us that

1049
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:59,510
it directs us you write about a little

1050
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:01,040
game that you played that I thought

1051
00:56:06,340 --> 00:56:02,570
people might find interesting but you

1052
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:06,350
say I began around the clock practice of

1053
00:56:10,810 --> 00:56:08,810
anything that entered my awareness I was

1054
00:56:13,270 --> 00:56:10,820
responsible for anything that was my

1055
00:56:15,730 --> 00:56:13,280
responsibility I would attend to and

1056
00:56:18,250 --> 00:56:15,740
anything I attended to I would complete

1057
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:18,260
I did this practice for a week and did

1058
00:56:22,930 --> 00:56:21,170
not let anything by me by Sunday I was

1059
00:56:25,540 --> 00:56:22,940
picking cigarette butts up off the

1060
00:56:28,210 --> 00:56:25,550
street and I really liked that because

1061
00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:28,220
how often do we see dishes in the sink

1062
00:56:32,980 --> 00:56:30,110
or any number of things that we ignore

1063
00:56:35,110 --> 00:56:32,990
and then they nag at us and maybe we

1064
00:56:39,340 --> 00:56:35,120
should take your approach of instant

1065
00:56:41,910 --> 00:56:39,350
action maybe light is like a universal

1066
00:56:44,170 --> 00:56:41,920
parent dangling keys ahead of our

1067
00:56:45,910 --> 00:56:44,180
toddler head saying hey look over here

1068
00:56:47,710 --> 00:56:45,920
you know you need to pay attention to

1069
00:56:51,940 --> 00:56:47,720
this I just think the whole idea is

1070
00:56:55,540 --> 00:56:51,950
pretty pretty cool well listen we know

1071
00:56:59,200 --> 00:56:55,550
for a fact that the eye does not on its

1072
00:57:03,490 --> 00:56:59,210
own initiate action there is no part of

1073
00:57:07,060 --> 00:57:03,500
our physiology that is designed to begin

1074
00:57:11,550 --> 00:57:07,070
to initiate the action our entire

1075
00:57:13,090 --> 00:57:11,560
physiology works as a response mechanism

1076
00:57:16,450 --> 00:57:13,100
what is it

1077
00:57:19,300 --> 00:57:16,460
responding to its responding to a

1078
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:19,310
stimulus what is the mo

1079
00:57:26,350 --> 00:57:23,730
fundamental stimulus there is light it's

1080
00:57:30,140 --> 00:57:26,360
the vibration from which everything

1081
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:30,150
emerges so literally literally now

1082
00:57:38,780 --> 00:57:33,810
what's catching our eye is catching our

1083
00:57:42,860 --> 00:57:38,790
I purposely guided by the intelligence

1084
00:57:46,970 --> 00:57:42,870
of life to move us in the direction we

1085
00:57:50,990 --> 00:57:46,980
need to go this is why a plant follows

1086
00:57:54,020 --> 00:57:51,000
the light that impinges upon it so when

1087
00:57:56,780 --> 00:57:54,030
something catches our eye be it the bed

1088
00:58:01,130 --> 00:57:56,790
needs making or there's a dish in the

1089
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:01,140
sink or a text to return or an email or

1090
00:58:07,890 --> 00:58:05,290
phone call or a bill to be paid

1091
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:07,900
the timing

1092
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:10,090
that occurrence

1093
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:12,850
coming from the same intelligence that

1094
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:15,610
regulates the rising and setting of the

1095
00:58:23,930 --> 00:58:20,530
Sun the movement of planets the change

1096
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:23,940
in the tides and seasons in other words

1097
00:58:30,690 --> 00:58:27,910
this is not occurring by accident this

1098
00:58:35,660 --> 00:58:30,700
is occurring at the precise instants of

1099
00:58:38,829 --> 00:58:35,670
time when you realize this

1100
00:58:43,150 --> 00:58:38,839
it's not about us needing to take action

1101
00:58:46,099 --> 00:58:43,160
when the light catches the eye the eye

1102
00:58:50,059 --> 00:58:46,109
reflexively and effortlessly moves

1103
00:58:53,539 --> 00:58:50,069
towards it the body then turns towards

1104
00:58:58,339 --> 00:58:53,549
it without any effort and we naturally

1105
00:59:02,839 --> 00:58:58,349
begin to respond to it effortlessly the

1106
00:59:07,370 --> 00:59:02,849
work that makes us fatigued is the work

1107
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:07,380
that we engage in when we say I'll do it

1108
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:08,730
later hmm

1109
00:59:14,460 --> 00:59:12,089
I'll prioritize it I'll take care of it

1110
00:59:20,739 --> 00:59:17,509
so much of our stress

1111
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:20,749
is because the mines is at do it later

1112
00:59:30,180 --> 00:59:26,890
when I feel love for my partner

1113
00:59:32,430 --> 00:59:30,190
every time I feel that I share it

1114
00:59:36,090 --> 00:59:32,440
doesn't make a difference when it is and

1115
00:59:40,980 --> 00:59:36,100
it could come at any moment

1116
00:59:43,900 --> 00:59:40,990
you know and what I'm sharing with you

1117
00:59:46,740 --> 00:59:43,910
and our listeners today

1118
00:59:49,329 --> 00:59:46,750
is that life is continually guiding us

1119
00:59:53,079 --> 00:59:49,339
the plant doesn't have to think about

1120
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:53,089
which way to grow how much to grow when

1121
01:00:00,609 --> 00:59:56,690
to grow when not to grow something is

1122
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:00,619
guiding it animals move the same way you

1123
01:00:07,299 --> 01:00:04,010
know I live in Maui every year thousands

1124
01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:07,309
of whales migrate from Alaska to Maui

1125
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:11,119
they make a ten thousand mile journey no

1126
01:00:19,630 --> 01:00:16,490
compasses no iPhones with navigational

1127
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:19,640
systems yet they travel primarily in

1128
01:00:24,010 --> 01:00:21,770
straight lines and regardless of

1129
01:00:26,770 --> 01:00:24,020
environmental conditions and currents

1130
01:00:30,100 --> 01:00:26,780
their route from year to year doesn't

1131
01:00:32,380 --> 01:00:30,110
vary even one degree

1132
01:00:35,740 --> 01:00:32,390
what is it that's guiding them what is

1133
01:00:40,450 --> 01:00:35,750
it that's guiding migratory birds that

1134
01:00:43,530 --> 01:00:40,460
make thousands of Maui's without leaders

1135
01:00:45,940 --> 01:00:43,540
and without followers

1136
01:00:48,940 --> 01:00:45,950
what's guiding us

1137
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:48,950
and I'm not talking about spiritual whoo

1138
01:00:59,620 --> 01:00:54,210
right now I'm talking about hard science

1139
01:01:03,680 --> 01:00:59,630
I'm talking about real hard science so

1140
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:03,690
science and spirituality are both

1141
01:01:08,510 --> 01:01:06,690
looking for the same thing one looks

1142
01:01:11,060 --> 01:01:08,520
through it microscope and a telescope

1143
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:11,070
and the other one looks through direct

1144
01:01:16,730 --> 01:01:13,770
experience but they're both searching

1145
01:01:20,510 --> 01:01:16,740
for something similar the truth that

1146
01:01:23,270 --> 01:01:20,520
ultimately can set us free well said

1147
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:23,280
well said well man this has all been

1148
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:26,450
just so insightful a real pleasure

1149
01:01:30,860 --> 01:01:29,010
thanks for taking the time with me I

1150
01:01:33,470 --> 01:01:30,870
mean we mentioned luminous life the

1151
01:01:35,870 --> 01:01:33,480
latest book we mentioned light medicine

1152
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:35,880
of the future you also have take off

1153
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:38,400
your glasses and see that's a great

1154
01:01:42,770 --> 01:01:40,290
title right there anything else to

1155
01:01:46,730 --> 01:01:42,780
remind people about your work or website

1156
01:01:49,250 --> 01:01:46,740
before we really let you go sure I have

1157
01:01:52,970 --> 01:01:49,260
a fourth book called wisdom from an

1158
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:52,980
empty mind hmm and we don't sell books

1159
01:01:57,110 --> 01:01:54,690
on my website we don't really hardly

1160
01:02:00,710 --> 01:01:57,120
sell anything those things are available

1161
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:00,720
through Amazon the website is Jacob

1162
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:05,370
Lieberman dot-org o RG and Lieberman is

1163
01:02:16,110 --> 01:02:12,130
spelled Li B's and boy er ma n

1164
01:02:18,770 --> 01:02:16,120
or people can follow me on Facebook

1165
01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:18,780
but I think they'd find the website

1166
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:22,000
beautiful it's a aesthetically beautiful

1167
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:23,170
website

1168
01:02:27,900 --> 01:02:26,170
I designed it that way because I'm not

1169
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:27,910
interested in selling stuff I'm

1170
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:30,490
interested in sharing whatever wisdom

1171
01:02:36,620 --> 01:02:33,370
I've acquired that hopefully can help

1172
01:02:39,750 --> 01:02:36,630
humanity and I think people will find it

1173
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:39,760
informative there are a lot of little

1174
01:02:45,420 --> 01:02:42,610
short videos that take three minutes or

1175
01:02:47,510 --> 01:02:45,430
little audio pieces of interviews that

1176
01:02:49,710 --> 01:02:47,520
I've done or interesting things

1177
01:02:53,130 --> 01:02:49,720
interviews that were written and so on

1178
01:02:58,050 --> 01:02:53,140
that people may find fascinating Google

1179
01:02:59,490 --> 01:02:58,060
has thousands of them or YouTube and on

1180
01:03:03,360 --> 01:02:59,500
our Facebook page

1181
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:03,370
what's nice is all we do is share things

1182
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:05,290
that we think are valuable for people

1183
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:08,050
and so it becomes a nice place to visit

1184
01:03:14,310 --> 01:03:12,250
and to see a nice quote or a nice new

1185
01:03:16,890 --> 01:03:14,320
piece of research about something that

1186
01:03:19,770 --> 01:03:16,900
people are interested in so

1187
01:03:23,430 --> 01:03:19,780
people can contact us again through

1188
01:03:26,430 --> 01:03:23,440
jacob lieberman org and most of all live

1189
01:03:28,830 --> 01:03:26,440
I'm so grateful that you took the time

1190
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:28,840
to reach out and that we had this

1191
01:03:32,970 --> 01:03:31,510
opportunity to share a couple of hours

1192
01:03:35,340 --> 01:03:32,980
together mm-hmm

1193
01:03:37,260 --> 01:03:35,350
too kind yes I definitely enjoyed it

1194
01:03:39,390 --> 01:03:37,270
definitely learned a lot I'm sure the

1195
01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:39,400
people would agree you're a true

1196
01:03:44,190 --> 01:03:42,160
advocate of light and sight thanks so

1197
01:03:45,570 --> 01:03:44,200
much for your time dr. Lieberman keep

1198
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:45,580
doing what you do and take care out

1199
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:47,770
there all right and you as well have a

1200
01:03:53,870 --> 01:03:51,490
marvelous day in a marvelous 2019 you as

1201
01:03:59,040 --> 01:03:53,880
well cheers Cheers

1202
01:04:04,350 --> 01:03:59,050
and let there be light dear people dr.

1203
01:04:07,170 --> 01:04:04,360
Jacob Lieberman a Titan in his field he

1204
01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:07,180
has been to the mountaintop I kid but I

1205
01:04:11,940 --> 01:04:09,790
really was happy with this because when

1206
01:04:15,030 --> 01:04:11,950
you fold it in with sure Mangia near and

1207
01:04:18,300 --> 01:04:15,040
the hollow fractal perspective I think

1208
01:04:20,790 --> 01:04:18,310
it's right there and honestly this

1209
01:04:23,850 --> 01:04:20,800
wasn't really supposed to be so

1210
01:04:26,430 --> 01:04:23,860
synergistic with those episodes it just

1211
01:04:29,580 --> 01:04:26,440
kind of happened in a sort of classic

1212
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:29,590
sync fashion cuz I'd already set out to

1213
01:04:34,620 --> 01:04:31,690
find this guest specifically for light

1214
01:04:38,130 --> 01:04:34,630
therapy and there are some good options

1215
01:04:41,070 --> 01:04:38,140
out there but I had heard a Nadi Martell

1216
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:41,080
on rune soup and I thought well let me

1217
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:42,490
look around because I don't want to

1218
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:45,130
poach another guest from Gordon it's a

1219
01:04:51,570 --> 01:04:48,330
big world out there and it's rude plus

1220
01:04:54,180 --> 01:04:51,580
annatee has a fairly thick accent which

1221
01:04:55,350 --> 01:04:54,190
is a small thing but I also factored in

1222
01:04:57,630 --> 01:04:55,360
that when Gordon asked him about

1223
01:05:00,660 --> 01:04:57,640
conspiratorial angles and medical

1224
01:05:03,170 --> 01:05:00,670
suppression and how much more widely

1225
01:05:06,300 --> 01:05:03,180
known this information used to be before

1226
01:05:08,670 --> 01:05:06,310
Rockefeller medicine even though it's in

1227
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:08,680
his book it didn't seem to be his

1228
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:11,290
favorite line of questioning and I

1229
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:13,570
understand like let's get past it and

1230
01:05:18,270 --> 01:05:15,130
just get to the science and the

1231
01:05:20,550 --> 01:05:18,280
application and the positive stuff but

1232
01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:20,560
when I got a noddy's book not only is

1233
01:05:26,070 --> 01:05:23,440
dr. Lieberman's book light medicine of

1234
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:26,080
the future featured prominently in the

1235
01:05:30,510 --> 01:05:29,410
light therapy history portion dr.

1236
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:30,520
Lieberman actually

1237
01:05:35,220 --> 01:05:32,770
wrote the forward to the book overall so

1238
01:05:38,310 --> 01:05:35,230
I followed that thread thought hey let's

1239
01:05:41,250 --> 01:05:38,320
check this guy out and I saw a few dr.

1240
01:05:43,290 --> 01:05:41,260
Lieberman presentations and was just

1241
01:05:46,290 --> 01:05:43,300
sold that he would be a great guest

1242
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:46,300
he had a miraculous healing event while

1243
01:05:49,530 --> 01:05:47,890
meditating that's something pretty

1244
01:05:51,990 --> 01:05:49,540
interesting to a higher side crowd I

1245
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:52,000
would think but he's also this huge

1246
01:05:56,940 --> 01:05:54,490
living legend in the world of light

1247
01:05:59,130 --> 01:05:56,950
therapy and his newest book luminous

1248
01:06:02,850 --> 01:05:59,140
life is more about the big picture the

1249
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:02,860
philosophy and worldview behind it all I

1250
01:06:07,110 --> 01:06:05,050
mean it's right on the cover how the

1251
01:06:10,260 --> 01:06:07,120
science of light unlocks the art of

1252
01:06:13,620 --> 01:06:10,270
living and I thought yes let's fold this

1253
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:13,630
in and I'm sure after 30 years having

1254
01:06:17,460 --> 01:06:15,250
written that book so long ago it's

1255
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:17,470
probably a lot more exciting to talk

1256
01:06:23,010 --> 01:06:20,290
about these big picture ideas one could

1257
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:23,020
argue it's even more important though I

1258
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:25,330
was glad we were still able to fit in

1259
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:27,250
some time for the down-to-earth

1260
01:06:30,990 --> 01:06:29,290
applications because I still think

1261
01:06:34,110 --> 01:06:31,000
they're pretty unknown in the wider

1262
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:34,120
culture and that was what I initially

1263
01:06:38,220 --> 01:06:36,730
set out to do anyway but when I was

1264
01:06:40,140 --> 01:06:38,230
preparing for the actual interview it

1265
01:06:41,790 --> 01:06:40,150
was just like well we can do that later

1266
01:06:44,730 --> 01:06:41,800
too let's get into this big-picture

1267
01:06:47,460 --> 01:06:44,740
stuff and I don't know how I would have

1268
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:47,470
felt about all this material maybe even

1269
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:49,570
five years ago I might have thought it

1270
01:06:54,930 --> 01:06:52,570
was a bit cheesy but now I think it's

1271
01:06:57,810 --> 01:06:54,940
some of the most important stuff to be

1272
01:06:59,610 --> 01:06:57,820
hearing about to be thinking about and I

1273
01:07:03,240 --> 01:06:59,620
really love that idea that light is

1274
01:07:05,580 --> 01:07:03,250
directing us intelligently dr. Lieberman

1275
01:07:08,550 --> 01:07:05,590
would say it's not an idea it's the

1276
01:07:12,420 --> 01:07:08,560
reality I understand he has a real

1277
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:12,430
knowing and it shows so I guess I mean

1278
01:07:17,250 --> 01:07:14,770
that I like that acknowledgement that

1279
01:07:19,890 --> 01:07:17,260
light is directing us intelligently I

1280
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:19,900
mean now we have the false light of the

1281
01:07:26,340 --> 01:07:22,810
digital take over the dead pale glow of

1282
01:07:29,460 --> 01:07:26,350
the abyss and we cannot look away no but

1283
01:07:32,220 --> 01:07:29,470
it is like that signal from the Sun from

1284
01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:32,230
the photons of indras net perhaps it's

1285
01:07:36,790 --> 01:07:34,960
blocked because of this false light and

1286
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:36,800
our obsession with it

1287
01:07:43,750 --> 01:07:39,650
it isn't good for us but we just can't

1288
01:07:46,420 --> 01:07:43,760
stop do not follow that false light see

1289
01:07:47,860 --> 01:07:46,430
now I'm getting into preacher talk but

1290
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:47,870
it is interesting right I mean that

1291
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:51,200
language and just the reality we're in

1292
01:07:56,890 --> 01:07:54,170
the situation the culture this point in

1293
01:08:00,250 --> 01:07:56,900
the timeline I think this stuff is

1294
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:00,260
important and that approach to life that

1295
01:08:04,330 --> 01:08:02,450
if something enters your attention feel

1296
01:08:06,820 --> 01:08:04,340
then it's a call to action and you

1297
01:08:08,350 --> 01:08:06,830
should take care of it I've been trying

1298
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:08,360
to incorporate that a bit because I do

1299
01:08:12,130 --> 01:08:10,490
have a tendency to put things off and

1300
01:08:14,230 --> 01:08:12,140
then I can't even enjoy the time that

1301
01:08:15,610 --> 01:08:14,240
I'm trying to use to relax because I

1302
01:08:19,620 --> 01:08:15,620
keep thinking about how I have to get up

1303
01:08:22,329 --> 01:08:19,630
and do that thing it's dumb and so to me

1304
01:08:24,990 --> 01:08:22,339
just that it's something that you could

1305
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:25,000
take away from here and see real life

1306
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:28,970
improvements right now or tomorrow

1307
01:08:31,809 --> 01:08:29,810
morning I mean

1308
01:08:33,700 --> 01:08:31,819
brace yourself you know give yourself

1309
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:33,710
some time to mentally prepare for this

1310
01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:36,650
radical new life change but you could

1311
01:08:41,530 --> 01:08:38,960
incorporate it and see those real life

1312
01:08:43,210 --> 01:08:41,540
improvements treat it like a game if you

1313
01:08:44,740 --> 01:08:43,220
even look at that kettle bell well you

1314
01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:44,750
got to pick it up and swing it around a

1315
01:08:49,930 --> 01:08:47,120
couple times now if you see that trash

1316
01:08:51,910 --> 01:08:49,940
is full it's got to go out just do

1317
01:08:54,099 --> 01:08:51,920
what's in front of you and when you spot

1318
01:08:57,010 --> 01:08:54,109
those golden arches you got to get a

1319
01:09:00,220 --> 01:08:57,020
burger every time that's just the rule

1320
01:09:01,870 --> 01:09:00,230
now but I got to thank dr. Lieberman for

1321
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:01,880
recording this with me over two

1322
01:09:06,460 --> 01:09:03,890
different days that would be why we

1323
01:09:08,860 --> 01:09:06,470
might have retreaded a little bit of the

1324
01:09:12,180 --> 01:09:08,870
same ground in the second hour because

1325
01:09:14,829 --> 01:09:12,190
it was recorded I think three days later

1326
01:09:17,170 --> 01:09:14,839
regardless it was very cool for him to

1327
01:09:18,670 --> 01:09:17,180
give me that extra time and I feel

1328
01:09:21,430 --> 01:09:18,680
really good about putting this one out

1329
01:09:24,519 --> 01:09:21,440
there overall I hope it's inspiring

1330
01:09:27,210 --> 01:09:24,529
check out his books and website he's got

1331
01:09:30,970 --> 01:09:27,220
audio and video for sale on there too as

1332
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:30,980
well as that spectral receptivity system

1333
01:09:35,740 --> 01:09:34,010
and telling me liked it if you did of

1334
01:09:38,079 --> 01:09:35,750
course as I mentioned we do have a

1335
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:38,089
second hour as always it's sort of the

1336
01:09:42,910 --> 01:09:40,730
thing around here it's how you double

1337
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:42,920
the entertainment and educational value

1338
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:45,290
of what this show can be

1339
01:09:50,650 --> 01:09:48,170
and it's why tens of thousands of people

1340
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:50,660
here a free show that's still commercial

1341
01:09:55,870 --> 01:09:52,970
free except for this kind of thing right

1342
01:09:58,540 --> 01:09:55,880
here but in the second hour today we

1343
01:10:01,060 --> 01:09:58,550
talked about a little thing called light

1344
01:10:05,500 --> 01:10:01,070
therapy suppression and the history

1345
01:10:08,620 --> 01:10:05,510
they're light colors and the effects on

1346
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:08,630
our physiology that spectral receptivity

1347
01:10:13,990 --> 01:10:11,810
system the element of fire

1348
01:10:16,390 --> 01:10:14,000
how sunlight affects us differently at

1349
01:10:19,180 --> 01:10:16,400
different points in the day tons of

1350
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:19,190
great powerful stuff that we really

1351
01:10:25,210 --> 01:10:21,050
should have been taught a long time ago

1352
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:25,220
I am curious about trying to use some of

1353
01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:28,010
those infrared healing techniques to

1354
01:10:32,950 --> 01:10:31,280
possibly restore my hearing even if not

1355
01:10:34,780 --> 01:10:32,960
the deafness from when I was a little

1356
01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:34,790
kid but if we could just restore the

1357
01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:37,310
damage I did at punk rock shows in high

1358
01:10:43,540 --> 01:10:40,490
school I wouldn't be mad no rush but I

1359
01:10:46,180 --> 01:10:43,550
do think it is part of this overall THC

1360
01:10:49,330 --> 01:10:46,190
journey I don't talk about it a lot but

1361
01:10:51,610 --> 01:10:49,340
it is like the last domino that maybe

1362
01:10:54,130 --> 01:10:51,620
needs to fall I've been able to explain

1363
01:10:57,210 --> 01:10:54,140
strange experiences in my past given

1364
01:11:00,130 --> 01:10:57,220
context to my psychedelic journeys

1365
01:11:02,940 --> 01:11:00,140
escaped the nine-to-five cog in the

1366
01:11:06,430 --> 01:11:02,950
wheel societal trap that I was just so

1367
01:11:08,530 --> 01:11:06,440
consumed and obsessed by and become much

1368
01:11:11,260 --> 01:11:08,540
more knowledgeable and a whole host of

1369
01:11:14,230 --> 01:11:11,270
subjects and have more than justified my

1370
01:11:16,870 --> 01:11:14,240
internal outrage at Authority so I've

1371
01:11:18,460 --> 01:11:16,880
reeled a lot of things back and although

1372
01:11:22,270 --> 01:11:18,470
I don't think I'm going to restore the

1373
01:11:25,510 --> 01:11:22,280
forskin situation the last real lasting

1374
01:11:28,900 --> 01:11:25,520
damage from the system would be this

1375
01:11:30,790 --> 01:11:28,910
hearing issue and not necessarily that

1376
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:30,800
it was system caused but if there is a

1377
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:33,650
healing technique out there that has

1378
01:11:39,480 --> 01:11:36,290
been suppressed from me in that regard I

1379
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:39,490
can blame the system so you know

1380
01:11:44,290 --> 01:11:42,170
something just tells me that that might

1381
01:11:47,290 --> 01:11:44,300
have happened for a reason and might not

1382
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:47,300
be as permanent as I've believed for 30

1383
01:11:52,810 --> 01:11:50,090
years we shall see still seems very

1384
01:11:55,130 --> 01:11:52,820
unlikely but my whole life has become

1385
01:11:56,990 --> 01:11:55,140
pretty unlikely

1386
01:11:59,390 --> 01:11:57,000
but I do love you guys thanks so much

1387
01:12:01,190 --> 01:11:59,400
for listening I hope the care and

1388
01:12:05,030 --> 01:12:01,200
attention that I'm trying to put into

1389
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:05,040
each episode shows that I obviously do

1390
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:06,810
not take you guys or your time for

1391
01:12:12,890 --> 01:12:08,970
granted and I guess I'm getting out of

1392
01:12:15,070 --> 01:12:12,900
here your move you lovely lovely little

1393
01:12:20,450 --> 01:12:15,080
white beans soaking up your sunshine

1394
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:20,460
your lucid dreams are so vivid cuz you

1395
01:12:26,510 --> 01:12:23,130
go to bed at 7 and your brain comes

1396
01:12:29,150 --> 01:12:26,520
alive cuz your H and 9 to 5 you wake up

1397
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:29,160
with a dread and make sure your cats are

1398
01:12:33,950 --> 01:12:31,650
fed did your brain talk to a ghost who

1399
01:12:38,030 --> 01:12:33,960
moved your coffee and your toast as you

1400
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:38,040
listen to the higher side chats you get

1401
01:12:43,310 --> 01:12:40,650
to your desk and your boss says it's a

1402
01:12:45,770 --> 01:12:43,320
mess and your soul slowly goes to a

1403
01:12:50,410 --> 01:12:45,780
place where nothing grows when you think

1404
01:12:53,540 --> 01:12:50,420
he's not around you insert a SETI sound

1405
01:12:57,890 --> 01:12:53,550
vom says turn it down and you say it's

1406
01:13:00,740 --> 01:12:57,900
just the higher side chats oh do you

1407
01:13:05,630 --> 01:13:00,750
think you're being invited to Bohemian

1408
01:13:09,290 --> 01:13:05,640
Grove to a Bilderberg Club oh do you

1409
01:13:15,100 --> 01:13:09,300
think you'd be invited by rust out to a

1410
01:13:17,530 --> 01:13:15,110
party on a submarine diving

1411
01:13:20,590 --> 01:13:17,540
to the center of the

1412
01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:20,600
to the Marianas Trench your teeth begin

1413
01:13:28,630 --> 01:13:24,800
to clench from the sulphureus stench the

1414
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:28,640
mask you give in doesn't fit because

1415
01:13:38,670 --> 01:13:36,030
starting today you'll make plans to get

1416
01:13:41,370 --> 01:13:38,680
away there's no one to hold you down and

1417
01:13:44,220 --> 01:13:41,380
the what if start to drown then you wake

1418
01:13:47,070 --> 01:13:44,230
to the glare of a co fluorescent stare

1419
01:13:49,440 --> 01:13:47,080
and the light winks at you cuz its life

1420
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:49,450
is almost through but it's holding gone